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Post  Ulrek Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:26 am

okay first post on this forum....don't riot now....

this is just me thinking a head for one the underdark server comes up but on other servers there is some annyoing rules about slave RP and kidnaping people to be slaves and what not so i just thought up a few basic things that (i hope) will help keep things from geting nasty if that type of RP happens...

rule 1 to enslave a PC you must have the okay of the player
rule 2 before you can do any lasting damage (cuting out tongues hacking of limbs etc) you must have the okay of the player
rule 3 a PC of any level could be enslaved but if it gets lose and starts killing people its the fault of the owner for keeping it and not geting rip of it (killing it or throwing it to a back of beasts)
rule 4 a PC should only be perma killed if it is okay with the player of it and it should be taiked about before hand not just some random thing done after a event gone bad or some such

...now this is ment for debate not as set in stone i my self like rules that give PCs that could get enslaved power well makeing slave RP a option some people have had trouble with players not wanting to be slaves but i find if your nice and don't try and force it on them and thay feel safe in it and not threatined it has gone smoothly for me now like i said feel free to debate this in posts i know some people would rather have it be more hardcore in that if you get attacked and kidnaped the attackers could just do what thay wanted but i found haveing a few rules in place that give the player a few OOC rights keeps them calm and always made me feel safer....

now i would say that a rule that you can be kindaped for a short time and held for a short time would be okay but i would still like to see a rule about torture that goes past just a simple beating with fists (whips branding rods magic shook wands etc) should have a "if its okay" type of rule just to keep people who don't like that type of RP and find it disturbing away from it would be good

...now well on the topic of slaves most servers don't like sex slavery i am not going to be the judge of that i will leave this up to the DM team and others to debate...

now as i have mentioned a few times debate this i do want to know what peoples feelings are on this... one last thing try not to be to hateful or bitter from past events on other servers about this here for poor ODA if not for me lol
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Post  Ulrek Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:20 pm

as i now know people ARE reading this i will reply my self as no one else seems to want to lol....

now rule 4 is not about OOC killing as much as i ment that the death of a PC if the player is okay with it should be thought out a bit not just the idea of the killer or killers..

now my nots about sex slavery could be misunderstood what i ment is that i am neutral on this topic and for that matter even if i wasnt its ODAs server so he should set rules not me that was the meaning of that....

and some people have mistaken the meaning of "enslave" my meaning is one you trick some one or beat them over the head tie them up and drag them back to whatever dark hole you come from not a spell so much but mind control magic has been used before i heared about a Kobold back on a server i used to play on that used magic to enslave people.. none the less one i say "enslave" i mean was use of force and kiddnaping but yes magic can be used i would think

and just in case i wasnt clear the thing about kiddnaping that you could hold a PC for a short time (a few hours at most) with out his okay is just to keep people from abuseing the rules ment to give a few OOC rights to players so even if some one cant make you a slave long term you could still get locked up if your careless or stupid..

also some people may have mistaken me for meaning drow only one i taik about slavers and such one in fact other races duergar and orc bloods and other beast races as well as some surfacer humans use slaves Yaun-ti use slaves as well so just keep that in mind.....

now if i have forgotten something to reply to my self about.... why don't you tell me.... in a reply of your own eh? lol
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Post  Raising_Cain Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:41 am

Uh... Dohral isn't Forgotten Realms, honestly. As far as I know about the lore, there is no Underdark, and drow aren't exactly native, and are just starting here. Maybe try talking with the people who run it, to get them started, if you want to?
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Post  Ulrek Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:47 am

sorry it has taken me so long to reply to this i was hopeing i wouldnt have to.... again...

there will be a underdark type of thing on here as far as i know (i'm shooting for it to be called "The Underdeep" my self) and one i taik about slaves theres more than one type of evil that uses slaves i only use underdarkers as thay are the first to come to mind...

and as for taiking with people i do or i wouldnt have posted about this...

now if any one feels the need to reply something here... feel free there isnt any epic traps that will go off if you hit "reply" you know....
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Post  GM_ODA Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:47 am

Just to clarify, we try not to confuse people by calling our own unique vast underground areas the 'Underdark' - as a working title, we had called ours the 'Blunderdark' though that may or may not change (will likely do a poll on names so feel free to suggest alternatives in this thread if you like).

The next module will include some of these vast underground areas as well as some additional surface material for the world where Dohral is found, though it is uncertain which particular areas will be added at this time.

Be well. Game on.
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Post  Ulrek Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:21 pm

oh btw i never ment to say it was the underdark from FR just that it was like the underdark and i didn't know that you called it "the blunderdark" as any type of real name not just a joke or i would have used that name...

oh and on the topic of picking a better name...


Twisted Evil vote for "underdeep" Twisted Evil
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Post  Eriniel Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:33 pm

To take care of these OOC rules a Simple addition to the RuneStone's OOC Menu (This will be posted on the forum and in Tutorial) called 'Acceptable Violence Level'.

Thus presetting this before any combat event, this way PCs involved in combat are not going to need to stop and type while getting beat up.

For the capturing PC to do their catching can be as simple as activating an item/selectable feat at the intended victim PC.

The system will query this and take it from there, giving both feedback information without disruption.

It will also make sure that they are in combat but will stake the 'claim' so that your own Associates (familiar/Animal Companion/Henchmen/Summon/dominated NPCs), party members, etc don't kill your intended 'pet'/etc whatever...

This will be setup then tested, if it work then we'll write it up in full and keep it, if it doesn't then we'll change it...
Ulrek, your help testing this will be appreciated, I have no experience doing this stuff in game.
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Post  Ulrek Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:20 pm

i would be more than happy to test these things and give feed back on the good points \ flaws i find one it is time to test it
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Post  GM_ODA Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:23 pm

I'm open to suggestions, everyone feel free to chime in with alternate names for the 'underdark-like' areas... I got a quirky sense of humor and some fans of the UD might not like me calling it 'Blunderdark' - the running joke was that it was "As evil as the Underdark but with more toe stubbing." Very Happy

An don't all you drow get mad at me, it's SURFACER humor. lol.

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Post  Julia_D_Audarius Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:57 pm

Heya:

If I could offer a suggestion.

IC/OOC Metaphor

The drow not being native to the server, in the same way as no player is native to this server. They all arrive from elsewhere.

With them, they bring whatever culture they have, and set up whatever world they like for themselves. I propose that no drow but the basic NPC merchants be built. No buildings made for them, nor any but the most basic assistance be offered. Nor should there be any NPC drow aside from the basic merchants. Even those could possibly be slaves, or outsiders.

The drow faction would be players, and all that they have, they build for themselves. Even the names of the areas could be IC. Whatever drow factions would exist, would be player made, and populated. Whatever buildings exists would be paid for by players. Built only on their own accomplishments, the drow would offer the chance to become real legends. Real players, accomplishing real things.

Real respect. No one cares about the things NPC's do, or gifts from DM's to players. Only that which is earned, has value. If they drow were to be entirely self-made, then they would have true credibility. Players would remember Matron X, Y, or Z, for things they -really- did, for true accomplishment.

That would be worth more then a few buildings, and a couple high level NPC's ever could.

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Post  Ulrek Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:38 am

okay heres my latest reply to my own topic...

A i vote for the name "Underdeep"
Twisted Evil vote for underdeep its fun Twisted Evil

B makeing it drow PCs only would make it less fun for PCs haveing a well made city is a good way to get players to come who wants to play in a bare bones nothing there part of a server?...... or would you rather go to a server that -has- all those things and has drow players?

.... all tho yes it would make the RP better if it did work but i my self don't play drow PCs even tho i do play under "dark\deep" chars and evils like that so other than
-maybe- two drow thats all i know of and only one i see IG often...

thus my answer is this....

make a good place to RP but if you want leave a few spots unmade to be ICly named and such if you want....

keep in mind as far as i know a DM needs to okay a player to play a drow so that cuts down on the drow player base and i do not even know of any drow male PCs so the likely hood of there being any little drowlings is low atm if its just drow PCs only lol.....
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Post  Forum.Admin Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:39 am

There's more than 2 drows on this server that play alot, Just most hide thier Identity...

As for new names ill open a poll up so that this topic is not flooded with suggestions..


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