MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
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MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/03/gamespy-multiplayer-shutting-down-hundreds-of-games-at-risk
This could be very bad.
This could be very bad.
Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Ummmmm...
How is this bad? Gamespy abandoned us long ago; so we really wont be affected in that regard. I feel that whats truly a shame is that this new owner was allowed to violate so many contracts that had already been signed and payed for. Its like your local car dealer suddenly showing up at your door many years later and saying "we decided we want more money for that car you bought way back when, hand it over or we take the car".
That is whats truly reprehensible about this ordeal.
How is this bad? Gamespy abandoned us long ago; so we really wont be affected in that regard. I feel that whats truly a shame is that this new owner was allowed to violate so many contracts that had already been signed and payed for. Its like your local car dealer suddenly showing up at your door many years later and saying "we decided we want more money for that car you bought way back when, hand it over or we take the car".
That is whats truly reprehensible about this ordeal.
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
I think bad that Oda is referring to as PW Admins may have to come with alternative security measures.
Th eonly good side to this bad news that many games not just NWN will be affected.
Th eonly good side to this bad news that many games not just NWN will be affected.
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Friends,
Login security lapsed when the Master Server went down years ago, all the servers out there worth their weight in snot already have a fix/work-around for it.
I like to lurk in the gamespy chatbox ... under the name playnwnDOTcom. Even if I am afk, my name is the web sites's URL and some find us that way, so I stay logged there all the time pretty much. The reason I do this is because all the returning players and all the players who buy the game new (like at gog.com) go there. They find NO game list/SERVERLIST, if they find no chatbox they may get the impression that NWN multiplayer is dead. Not everyone can use search engines well (most are pretty remedial with the engines) so this could hurt NWN bigtime.
Login security lapsed when the Master Server went down years ago, all the servers out there worth their weight in snot already have a fix/work-around for it.
I like to lurk in the gamespy chatbox ... under the name playnwnDOTcom. Even if I am afk, my name is the web sites's URL and some find us that way, so I stay logged there all the time pretty much. The reason I do this is because all the returning players and all the players who buy the game new (like at gog.com) go there. They find NO game list/SERVERLIST, if they find no chatbox they may get the impression that NWN multiplayer is dead. Not everyone can use search engines well (most are pretty remedial with the engines) so this could hurt NWN bigtime.
Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Heh.. well here's a thought..
we could allways buy the rights to nwn and retarget the master server to simply scope the internet for anyone brodcasting nwn on that port...... yeah... I know its a pipe dream but if i win the lotto this weak you can look forward to a 1 million dollar donation to that goal.
What!? If your gonna dream, dream big!
we could allways buy the rights to nwn and retarget the master server to simply scope the internet for anyone brodcasting nwn on that port...... yeah... I know its a pipe dream but if i win the lotto this weak you can look forward to a 1 million dollar donation to that goal.
What!? If your gonna dream, dream big!
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Shar wrote:Heh.. well here's a thought..
we could allways buy the rights to nwn and retarget the master server to simply scope the internet for anyone brodcasting nwn on that port...... yeah... I know its a pipe dream but if i win the lotto this weak you can look forward to a 1 million dollar donation to that goal.
What!? If your gonna dream, dream big!
Frankly shar if you going to have endless amounts of money and wish to dream big then...... You should pay for every member to meet up and we will move to the moon where we will commence the creation of elves/goblins/dwarfes/ forgotten realms in general and begin the construction of Dohral itself. Any who wish to join our perpetual paradise will arrive via a stormy trip in a rocket hereby referred to as a boat. They will then begin their lives afresh in Dohral itself gaining in experience as they battle with monsters that we have created. While i run around at 2000 mph becoming invisible when i please and dropping goblins on unsuspecting players heads Dream big?
But on a more serious note i have been in the Gamespy chat a few times and sent a player or two to our server, As ODA says many people who buy this game will see no servers populate their lists at all. And on that note NwN goes in their trash. Its not great news but could be worse.
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Already servers are no longer listed on gamespy. I have three, the ones I play on.(this place included under favorites.)
So use facebook, the wiki, bioware forums.
Facebook has this:
https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/nwncp/
So use facebook, the wiki, bioware forums.
Facebook has this:
https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/nwncp/
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Master server list.
By Mikey Williams on Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:28pm
In an effort to consolidate this information I made this post.
Info: Gamespy discontinued support (service) for NWN 1 and many other games. So the built in gamespy service in the NWN 1 multiplayer component no longer functions.
Solutions: There are a number of alternatives to getting the full server list such as;
Xfire:http://www.xfire.com/download/ Once downloaded, install, and create an account. You can then log into the program, have it auto detect your games (and download updates), after which NWN 1 should show as an installed game. You can click on the server tab, refresh servers, and get a full list of all servers who been accessed using their system. Note to PW owners, to get your server registered with their list, you need to join your server using their program once or a few times. This link describes the process, and some issues. (http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/199/index/15207343)
Gameranger:http://www.gameranger.com I have not tried this program yet, but apparently it functions similar to Xfire, and also now supports NWN 1.
Web browser based services;
http://nwnserverlist.com/
http://www.nwnlist.com/ (note server listing is not working nor are action servers being displayed)http://www.isleclostridia.net/cgi-bin/listnwns1html.cgi
http://nwnserverlists.boards.net/
Community submitted file modifications:
A few of these have been, and/or are being worked on. The ones I know about, and their most current (as of 6.2.13) versions are:
http://data.virusman.ru/nwn/nwncx/nwncx-0.2.8.rar Which is a client extension, that amongst other things replaces the gamespy in game browser with a list maintained by SkywingL’s server. Basically the player uses the exe file instead of the original to launch the game (see documentation.)
Here is an outdated (?) version without the camera hack:http://data.virusman.ru/nwn/nwncx/nwncx-patch-nocamera.rar
To get servers listed with this there seems to be multiple options (and I am not clear which one is best.) The ones I know about are: http://www.neverwinternights.info/builders_hosts.htm Supposedly a player using NWNXC direct connecting to a server also gets it listed (however I am not sure about this.)
Or the newly released:
Server plugins for automatic listing are now available.
Windows binary: http://data.virusman.ru/nwn/nwnx_serverlist-pre-win32.rar
Linux source: https://github.com/virusman/nwnx2-linux/tree/serverlistLinuxbinary
http://data.virusman.ru/nwn/nwnx_serverlist-pre-linux.rar Note the server must be using NWNX for these to work, and basically you just put the dll in the main installation folder on the server (just like all the other NWNX plugins.) (P.S. I may have botched these links on face book.)
Never Launcher:
This is a program by Painofdungeoneternal, a warm and hearty thanks to him for it.
Here is his description of it in it's beta form:
"Feel free to edit or adjust this, i am not known for simple explanations...Never Laucher is available in Beta, works for both macs and PC's.Here is the link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1172450/NeverLauncher.zip ( You have to unzip it, every thing is in the folder and deleting the folder completely uninstalls it, NWNcx and NWN2 Client Extension are not included ) After it's installed, it will self update to get any fixes I put out.Forum Thread: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/172/index/8618078/1 ( Please post comments, i will read them, but I won't be able to get to implementing any fixes or features for a while until my life slows down, feed back, ideas for new features or how to make it easier to use are all very helpful )
This is what it does for a player: The main interface is designed to replace the game launcher. Make sure you select either NWN1 or NWN2 at the top right. The top right Play and DM buttons will start the game just like normal to the main menu.
The Tabs are as follows:Modules: Lists your modules ( still in progress )Multiplayer: It will list all the PW's in the given category. Click on the listed item to select it, which will show you a description below. To start playing the PW click on the Play or DM buttons next to the description and it will launch NWN1. Note that for this to work in NWN2 it requires using the NWN2 client extension.
If your favorite PW is not listed click Direct Connect, enter in the IP and port, then you can hit Play. Having "Add Games I Join to Central Tracker" checked will add it to the tracker.Download: Growse available vault content ( modules is main category ), and "Show Website" to open the specific vault page.
This is what it does for a PW Admin: You can add your PW to the main listing used by most of the sites and nwncx. This gets it on nwnlist.com, http://www.isleclostridia.net/cgi-bin/listnwns1html.cgi, NWNcx ( note that as far as i know, adding it via the add new server on these sites does not get it into the tracker ) nwnserverlist.com said they are using the data as well.Click Direct Connect, enter in the IP and port. Hit Ping Current Server to make sure it's there. Hitting "Add to Tracker" will add it to the tracker. It has buttons to enter in the Local and Public IP's as well. ( It checks the main tracker and only lets you add it if it's indeed not yet listed, wait 2-3 minutes, possibly longer for it to show up as the main tracker has to double check that the server is still there )" If there are others out there, or more recent updates, please post.
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Friends,
The tone of the article sounds grim
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-05-12-50-ea-games-will-have-their-servers-shut-down
I'm wondering what is afoot.
Eriniel? Care to weigh in on this one?
The tone of the article sounds grim
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-05-12-50-ea-games-will-have-their-servers-shut-down
I'm wondering what is afoot.
Eriniel? Care to weigh in on this one?
Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
SOunds like EA is dropping the online hosting for a lot of games, including NwN by june 30th. Gamespy has already dropped NwN, so it's not really gampesy thats the issue. Does this mean that mutlplayer will simply no longer work (unless on Lan?) I' sure there must be a way around it. Individuals have the server, and the game has most of the coding, so it's just the middle bit of connection inbetween, and if people got round gamespy dropping things, there must be a way of hosting a master server?
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Elgate wrote:SOunds like EA is dropping the online hosting for a lot of games, including NwN by june 30th. Gamespy has already dropped NwN, so it's not really gampesy thats the issue. Does this mean that mutlplayer will simply no longer work (unless on Lan?) I' sure there must be a way around it. Individuals have the server, and the game has most of the coding, so it's just the middle bit of connection inbetween, and if people got round gamespy dropping things, there must be a way of hosting a master server?
I am sure there is... the question is how..
In theory if we could figure out the how we could actually bring nwn multiplayer back online... To sweeten the pot IF anyone can accomplish this task AND are willing to host it i will DONATE the machine.
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Friends,
This has nothing to do with the 'Master Server' which has been down for years. Gamespy had nothing to do with the Master Server (that was BIOWARE, the Master Server got hacked, and BIOWARE chose to take it offline and keep it offline. With that loss, we no longer had username/password authentication. Good servers made their own security to replace that (we did).
It _may_ mean that we have to use a desktop shortcut to connect to a server. It may be that all the features (chat and serverlist) will be dark. It may mean more than that but I'll wait for Erin to speak on the matter.
This has nothing to do with the 'Master Server' which has been down for years. Gamespy had nothing to do with the Master Server (that was BIOWARE, the Master Server got hacked, and BIOWARE chose to take it offline and keep it offline. With that loss, we no longer had username/password authentication. Good servers made their own security to replace that (we did).
It _may_ mean that we have to use a desktop shortcut to connect to a server. It may be that all the features (chat and serverlist) will be dark. It may mean more than that but I'll wait for Erin to speak on the matter.
Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Aaah, so difficult for new players, but if the community steps up (which I'm sure it will) there will be things like nwn Scry telling people how to connect. My friend keeps trying to get me to make a direct connect short cut, because he's a techie and hates that I go through the process of Nwnmain- multiplayer, online, history, arg 0reg, when I can just click a short cut to arg reg XD.
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Shortcuts work well
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
After much delay for reasons unknown, the folks at Gamespy have followed through - our chatbox in NWN via Gamespy is dead.
*removes hat*
As of yesterday - the chatbox chats no more.
*removes hat*
As of yesterday - the chatbox chats no more.
Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
You can still get to your favorites if you cancel the message try another nick.
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
You can also skip that part by making a direct shortcut:
1. Right-click an empty space on the desktop, then select "New..." and "Shortcut".
2. Navigate to and select nwmain.exe, often at C:\Neverwinter Nights\NWN\nwmain.exe, then click "Next".
3. Enter the server's name. (This will be the short cuts name)
4. Right-click the new shortcut and select "Properties" (bottommost option).
5. In the "Target" field, enter the following: C:\NeverwinterNights\NWN\nwmain.exe +connect 66.232.100.90
(Or just +connect 66.232.100.90 after what ever you have as the address)
Then all you have to do is click 'sign in' and Whooosh, your on Arg-reg.
1. Right-click an empty space on the desktop, then select "New..." and "Shortcut".
2. Navigate to and select nwmain.exe, often at C:\Neverwinter Nights\NWN\nwmain.exe, then click "Next".
3. Enter the server's name. (This will be the short cuts name)
4. Right-click the new shortcut and select "Properties" (bottommost option).
5. In the "Target" field, enter the following: C:\NeverwinterNights\NWN\nwmain.exe +connect 66.232.100.90
(Or just +connect 66.232.100.90 after what ever you have as the address)
Then all you have to do is click 'sign in' and Whooosh, your on Arg-reg.
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
awww was wondering what was wrong... is there anyway to skip having to wait for the failed nick message....? or have to be stuck waiting every time we try to look at the server list?
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Follow these and will not have to wait for the 'Nick' dialog box.
Master Server Timeout Fix
And still have easy access to favorites and history.
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Re: MEGA POOP! Gamespy is going away.
Eriniel wrote:
Follow these and will not have to wait for the 'Nick' dialog box.
Master Server Timeout Fix
And still have easy access to favorites and history.
Yep those tips in that thread work great! Thanx again to Shar and Eri!
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